[jdom-interest] Is JDOM dying?
ahives at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 16 12:19:13 PST 2003
Hello all...I would like to help on coding but don't know how to get
started...please, someone stir me in the right direction so that we can get
this 1.0 out and running...Frankly, I am a little tired of all the APIs that
are being proposed to ultimately do the same thing...It is very confusing to
those newbie's wanting to get started in XML processing and those who want
to simplify there work by concentrating on one API...I mean we got: JDOM,
DOM4J, SAX, DOM, XOM, JAXB, blah, blah, blah...Even though I have not tried
all these APIs I am sure they are all good but this thread is for JDOM so
lets keep it that way...JDOM, or any of the other APIs for that matter, will
never be a cure all to the problems of us developers so let us keep this in
mind...I use multiple parsers and APIs in programs that work with XML...I
find it empowering to be able to use combinations of APIs to do certain
things...All these APIs have a specific purpose and I say let them serve
that purpose...It is better to each API do a couple things really well then
do everything mediocre...For instance, I am sure you developers have used a
combination of Sockets, XML/JAX-RPC, RMI, EJB, Servlets, JSP, or SOAP all in
the same application before or either two at the same time...Why? After all
they all have the same intention in mind, which is to communicate via a
network connection, and can do the same as the others...But they all have
there advantages and disadvantages...There are certain instances where using
one specific API exclusively will be less advantageous than using a
combination of those even though at times it may get a little complex
dealing with the intricacies and nuances of each API...This is nothing new
and is the same for all APIs even the XML ones...I know JDOM has been a
little sluggish for some time now but lets not lose sight on the advantages
of JDOM...Instead of contemplating its death let use put some life back into
it...I would like someone to tell me what type of new functionalities are
needed so that developers such as myself, who are eagerly anticipating such
action, can get this thing rolling again...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Cohen" <fcohen at pushtotest.com>
To: "Jason Hunter" <jhunter at servlets.com>
Cc: "Jason Long" <jason at supernovasoftware.com>; "JDOM"
<jdom-interest at jdom.org>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [jdom-interest] Is JDOM dying?
> Hey Jason: Thanks for your contribution of JDOM. I find it very useful
> in my work with Web Services. I very much appreciate your efforts.
> The plan you put makes sense to me. When you post the list of actions
> I'll look to see if I can volunteer some code/patches.
> Once 1.0 is done then let's talk about me being lead on the JCP process.
> On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 12:00 PM, Jason Hunter wrote:
> > I could write a long paper on the lifecycle of JDOM and probably will
> > someday. The short summary appropos to your concerns is that after I
> > went self employed a little over a year ago, my free time dried up. I
> > offered JDOM stewardship to a few individuals, but they declined.
> > Laurent and Brad are still energetic and great coders and have fixed
> > any
> > bugs as they've appeared, but the project's been going without a strong
> > rudder. I realize we need to get to a 1.0 and have been trying to
> > arrange my schedule to help lead that. I think as part of that we'll
> > drop some of the pie-in-the-sky ideas and just concentrate on the last
> > bit of spit and polish. Finalize everything so people can rely on it
> > and be happy.
> > Here's my plan:
> > 1) I'll propose a new TODO.txt based on what's there now and what's
> > flagged in my inbox
> > 2) We'll solicit feedback for anything else that needs to be in 1.0
> > 3) We'll divide the items into well-defined, concrete actions
> > 4) People can volunteer to perform the actions
> > 5) When all actions are done we'll manage the 1.0 release
> > As far as the JCP goes, I think it's more important with limited
> > resources to get a 1.0 software release out. To push JDOM through the
> > JCP process would require a volunteer to lead it.
> > -jh-
> >> I have been using JDOM for some time, and I have noticed the following
> >> problems:
> >> 1. There seems to be no desire to have a new release or even talk
> >> about it.
> >> 2. There hasn't been any update to the web site in a year.
> >> 3. Very few messages are posted to this list.
> >> I enjoy using JDOM, if fact my project rely heavily on it.
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